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Proxy War: Who Really Wins & Loses When Proxying Cards?
When it comes to the headline issues for Magic players, it seems as though everyone has an opinion on proxy cards. Is it okay to play with proxy cards? Who does it affect? Is it morally justifiable? Those are just a few of the questions you might have asked yourself, and regardless of your conclusion, the issue is probably more complex than you’d think. Most people fall into two mains camps, and I’ve found, at least in my experience, that those on either side are both quite vocal, but also quite bias and set in their ways.
Today, I’d like to look at the issue objectively, and explore the issue of Proxy cards in depth. But first, what are Proxies?
Proxy Cards
Proxies are essentially stand-ins for other cards. The dictionary defines Proxy as:
the authority to represent someone else, especially in voting
a figure that can be used to represent the value of something in a calculation
In Magic terms, this is essentially using one card to represent another. The most common way this is achieved is by inserting a piece of paper over a reversed Magic card, with basic and often crudely rendered information indicating what the card is. This could be as sparse as solely the card name, but as detailed as to include the rules text and a fun doodle. Others will opt to write in marker on the back of a bulk card in order to circumvent the need for paper at all, while others still will spend hours on graphic design to represent the card in the most accurate or aesthetically pleasing way possible.
A series of proxies. The Syr Gwyn proxy is made by a not-for-profit community member, ALK Alters, who does giveaways regularly
The most important distinction to make here is that proxy cards, no matter how realistic, are not legal in tournament magic. This means that in any official tournament, whether a Mythic Championship or just FNM at you local store, the cards are illegal to play with. So, why use Proxies?
Why Proxy?
The most common way to use a Proxy card is for playtesting. Whether this is for a 60-card constructed format like Modern, Pioneer, or Standard, or for testing out the Limited environment in a way that is cost efficient to competitive players; playtesting forms the biggest population of proxy users when it comes to Magic: the Gathering. The attraction of proxies becomes clear when looked at from this angle—Magic cards can be expensive, and so it helps to be sure that it’s worth parting with your hard earned cash before picking up a playset for your deck.
For formats like Limited, many of the top teams will want to practice as soon as they physically can in order to gain a competitive edge over other competitors. The moment spoiler season finishes, printers will fire up and print proxied versions of the spoiled cards, to immediately be drafted and playtested before the product is available to buy. In many ways, proxying cards this way seems like a necessity—it’s essential to be well versed in a format, and experienced with new cards, as soon as possible. What’s more, if the pros are doing it it must be fair, right?
But what about formats like Commander? Why should you proxy there?
Proxying in Commander
Proxying for formats like Commander is what has given rise to the debate about proxies, more than any other format. At its core, Commander is a casual format—as many like to say, “it’s not about the winning, it’s about doing cool stuff. ” Yet, people still proxy cards in Commander.
For some, they like to practice with newly spoiled cards to test out interactions with cards they own. In a lot of ways, this is no different to a pro team practicing with new cards—it’s harmless, generally speaking, and comes from a place of seeking to understand and learn, more than anything else.
A pretty intuitive way to use Proxies is to denote cards you own in your collection, but that are required in multiple singleton decks. As you don’t technically need six copies of Solemn Simulacrum, you can save time resleeving between decks by having a proxied card in each of your EDH decks, and a “side deck” with the real cards in. Most players shouldn’t have an issue with you shortcutting like this, and it can save you a lot of time, and importantly, money.
Others still like to use Proxy cards in a similar vein to altered cards, using the opportunity to enact their own personal artistic direction to achieve their own personal aesthetic. Proxies in this way often replace cards that can’t be foiled, for example—adding a foil proxy to a deck that has otherwise been foiled out as a passion project.
The aesthetic decision to proxy might also come into play when trying to achieve a certain theme or style for a deck. Having the artwork of a card reflect the Commander, or a tribe in the deck, can go a long way to making a deck feel complete. Card alterists—artists that paint in thin layers over an official Magic card to alter the appearance—have been doing this for practically as long as Magic has been around, in a similar manner. An altered Magic card is still legal if the original text denoting the name of the card is unobscured, and the paint isn’t too thick to alter the thickness in shuffling—though this is ultimately to a judge’s discretion, and they can refuse altered cards entirely.
Proxying in Commander isn’t limited to aesthetics and playtesting the odd new card, however. There are many players that want to proxy cards that they simply can’t afford. The common argument is that when cards are costing hundreds or even thousands of dollars, the fault is with Wizards and the reserve list, or the over inflation of card prices on the secondary market. Because of this, they argue, they should be free to simply proxy these expensive cards, and enjoy the play experience that many others who were either luckier or better off are able to.
I don’t necessarily disagree that Magic cards being expensive is a problem, and I also lament the fact that I can’t afford to add certain cards to my collection because of this. Some players have decided to use the gold-bordered World Championship series cards as a way to solve this. What started out as a cheap way to get access to cards like Enlightened Tutor and Gaea’s Cradle has now ended up with these ‘proxy’ cards fetching nearly $100 for the pricier options – and that’s a lot of money to invest if the table you sit down at doesn’t condone this solution. The issue doesn’t really end there, though, and much to the chagrin of many players who feel like it does, I want to explore it a little deeper.
The Casual vs Competitive Problem
When considering high-end Commander, whether competitive in nature, or in name (like cEDH), I think this argument is most watertight. When playing competitively, it is beneficial to players to have access to the same cards, and when looking at competitive Commander, it’s more akin to Vintage than it is to Modern. The staples of both cEDH and Canlander can be very expensive, with the latter even having Black Lotus available for play. Proxies are a potential solution to this, to allow more people to play cEDH and Canlander, and I can definitely get behind this.
On the other hand, I don’t think argument is as relevant when you consider that Commander, at it’s heart, is a casual and social format. At any other level of play, there isn’t a need to play with rare and expensive cards—indeed, the format began as a way to play the cheaper and jankier cards that don’t see play anywhere else. Power creep has unfortunately started to push that idea out of vogue, with the speed and consistency of most decks increasing rapidly over the past year or two, thanks to insanely pushed cards. When power creep pushes more casual players to react, sometimes that reaction will lead to considering older and more powerful cards that they don’t own.
At risk of going way off topic, a great way to frame this is in relation to fast mana. I won’t get into the pros and cons of it here (or what my ultimate thoughts are); but I feel like for some color combinations to compete with the raw value in Green, it’s becoming more and more acceptable for them to be playing cards like Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, and Grim Monolith. Whether you think these cards should be banned or not, the point is that they are expensive, and for many decks, looking backwards provides as many (if not more) solutions than looking forward would.
The Ethics of Proxying
There’s more to consider when thinking about proxies, though. What impact does using a proxy have on you, your playgroup, or your Local Game Store?
First off, consider that by starting to proxy, you’re essentially making the first move in an “arms race. ” Now, it’s not that arms races don’t exist outside of proxying; but more that, beyond playtesting the odd card here and there, when you really start to proxy more frequently, you’re inviting the other players in your group to join you. Even if they might be reluctant, there’s little to say they shouldn’t join you if they want to keep up. If you’re proxying a better mana base, then why shouldn’t they? The arms race can in this instance run to its logical conclusion—before you know it, you could be proxying most of a deck. There’s no financial barrier to stop this from happening, and it’s a lot harder to try and manage.
I’ve talked to players who do this—players who turn up at a shop expecting to play these cobbled together piles of competitive scrawlings because, “it’s all they have to play with their other playgroup. ” Whether the shop would allow this or not aside, it’s not conducive to playing outside your own playgroup, and it isn’t in the spirit of Commander. Not many playgroups would allow this. That’s a great segue to talk about Local Game Stores, though, so let’s move on.
We all know that the LGS is struggling. With each new product Wizards sells direct, and each discount on buying online, the incentive to purchase from an LGS dissipates. It’s not the only front they have to fight on, though, with increasing tax and rent prices depending on where in the world you are. All in all, it’s a miracle some are still open, and too many of us have had to watch our favorite places to play shut down.
Knowing all of this, I think it can be pretty ignorant to then take proxy cards into a shop that relies on selling singles for a living. Even if it’s “only one card, ” or you don’t do it all of the time, or it’s not a sanctioned event, or whatever reason you’d offer up as an excuse. Ultimately, it can propagate the idea that proxies are okay, and when that idea spreads through playgroups; and gradually the store, it can lead to a downturn in singles sales from the shop. I’m not going to sit here and deny that most people buy pricier singles online, because they do. What I’m talking about, more generally, is the cheaper cards. The cards costing less than $5. These are the impulse purchases that keep an LGS alive, and these are the cards that proxies hurt the most.
Many stores don’t allow proxies for this reason, and I respect that. Moreover, when you consider that for any event to fire and be logged by stores it has to be a legal event, it begs the questions of why Commander should be exempt from the same rules that govern every other sanctioned format.
As an aside, proxies from a gameplay perspective can also be pretty jarring. It’s a fun challenge to get someone to recall the modes on a Player Reward’s Cryptic Command, but when facing down multiple minimal-effort proxies across a table, it can become frustrating quickly if those proxies aren’t providing an accurate level of detail to represent the card they are meant to be representing. Misplays can happen, and when it’s due to game-pieces being sub optimal, it’s no fun.
What’s the Answer?
To really find an answer to the issue, it’s necessary to think about what’s important to you and your playgroup. At home, on the kitchen table, anything goes. Out there in the wild, though, I think it’s important to consider the wider consequences of how you represent the hobby to other players. Proxying is a way to make magic more accessible to everyone, and that’s a great goal; I think, though, that this can be achieved in a way with less feel bad, and less impact on the stores that might miss out on single sales.
It’s pretty simple—even if we’d love to play with Gaea’s Cradle, we should be happy to play at a lower power level and forgo the proxy depending on the context. Ultimately, those around us should respect that decision, and playgroups should be happy to make Commander the most inclusive that it could be by adapting to others and ensuring nobody feels left behind. It’s easy to take a position that you’ve worked hard to earn those high-end cards, and that everyone else should have to, too. It doesn’t end there, though, and if you want to take that position, it’s probably better to meet other players half-way and build a more casual deck, too. We’re all happy to donate cards to newer players to catch them up a little, but de-powering some of your decks is also a great option.
There’s always going to be a card out of reach, and really, Magic is a privilege that we should enjoy responsibly. As much as I can sit and advocate for proxying being bad for the ecosystem, I can’t not acknowledge that the pieces of cardboard in many deckboxes are worth more than their weight in gold. At the end of the day, however you feel about proxies, we could always do with more reprints. Some archetypes even hinge on these types of cards being available at a reasonable price—I’ve attempted to build lands-matters decks like The Gitrog Monster countless times, and each time I’ve felt underwhelmed precisely due to my lack of fetchlands. Wizards seem happy enough to print these Commanders, like Lord Windgrace, but not reprint the cards that are most needed to support them.
It’s an awkward place to be, and I hope things change soon. Mystery Booster and Commander Legends are both looking to shake up the Commander scene with reprints this year, but I just hope it’s enough.
What do you think? Do you allow gold-bordered cards at your table? What about full proxies of cards that people don’t own? Let me know on Twitter what you think to continue the discussion.
Based in the UK, Kristen is a lover of both Limited and Commander, and can most often be found championing the Boros Legion when called upon to sit down and shuffle up.
Literally Everything You Need to Know About Proxies in MTG – Draftsim
Last updated on August 30, 2021Roilmage’s Trick | Illustration by Johann BodinCards are kind of important in Magic, believe it or not. It is a trading card game after all. And the cards that you play with in paper Magic, the ones you buy at your LGS, are printed by WotC. I mean, they’re outsourced to a printing press, but you get my point. Official cards are made and distributed by our Wizard what about cards that are printed by a third party? I’m obviously talking about proxies. It’s in the title, I’m sure you’re not surprised. Proxies are a lot of things. They can be fun, but they’re controversial. In some cases, they’re even a little bit necessary. I don’t know about you, but I certainly can’t afford a large majority of cards from Magic’s past that go for hundreds, thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. The reserved list ensures that a lot of them will probably never go for much less, but that’s neither here nor what is a proxy? Where can you get them? What’s the different between a proxy and a counterfeit card? I’m here to answer all of your questions on the topic. So, without further ado, let’s get started! So, What Is a Proxy? The Fun Stuff: Ethics and Legality“Official” ProxiesGetting Your Hands on ProxiesMake Them YourselfProxy SitesProxy Photoshop and PDF TemplatesWhere to Buy Mini-ReviewHow to Make Special ProxiesFoilsTokensProxy CubePowering Down ProxiesSo, What Is a Proxy? Easy Prey | Illustration by Ekaterina BurmakI’m so glad you asked! Proxies are basically just homemade copies or stand-ins for MTG cards. There’s a pretty wide range for how to make a “proxy. ”Some people just write the name and abilities on a piece of paper covering a reversed card in a sleeve, some write the name of a card on the back of a bulk card like basic lands, and many people just print out the card in question. The latter is the type of proxy I wanna talk about inted proxies might have different art, different abilities, or just be a straight up custom card that doesn’t exist in Magic. They also might just be a homemade version of a card that’s not feasible to get. Think the infamous Black Lotus. Some players also use them for more “authentic” playtesting of decks before they spend crazy amounts of money on them. Obviously, you can’t use proxies in just any scenario. They’re perfect for kitchen table Magic, but anywhere outside of your own playgroup is either a straight up “no” or a “probably not. ” It’s always best to check and make sure first in any case, but anything competitive or even vaguely non-casual is a heavy “almost definitely not. ”Proxies aren’t legal in MTG, and depending on how they’re made, they sometimes skirt the line of legal in general. Counterfeit cards and proxy cards aren’t technically the same. There is a distinction, but it can be a bit of a grey Fun Stuff: Ethics and LegalityTrue Conviction | Illustration by Ekaterina BurmakHere’s the thing with proxies. There is technically a difference between proxy and counterfeit cards, but some people kind of use them interchangeably. Or they think a counterfeit card is actually a proxy card, or vice versa. It can get really messy sometimes, so let me clear the air before we get any cards shouldn’t be indistinguishable from their official counterparts. That’s basically the main thing that separates proxies from counterfeits. If your proxy is very official-looking and it’s hard to tell that it’s a proxy, you’re getting into dangerous territory. I’ve talked about this before, so I’m basically just gonna say the same thing here as I did can’t just make MTG cards to sell or distribute. WotC owns the rights to the card’s artwork, either through first printing rights (most likely) or full purchased rights (less likely). Look-a-like Magic cards just for personal use are already toeing the line. Any printing service that knows what it’s doing will refuse to print Magic cards for you because they know that it’s copyrighted material and can’t print it without being said, do I think Wizards is going to bust down your door because you printed a realistic-looking playset of the Power 9 to use at your kitchen table games? Probably not. Almost definitely not, actually. They might step in if you try to use them at your LGS or a DCI-sanctioned event, but personal use just isn’t worth their time or ’s all the legal jargon, but what about ethics? Greater Good | Illustration by Mathias KollrosUsing proxies in casual, everyday Magic is fine. What happens at your kitchen table games with your friends is between you and them. There is something to be said about the snowball effect of proxies. If it becomes a normal thing to proxy insanely expensive and powerful cards, you’re all probably going to end up doing it. Does it eventually lead to you proxying all Magic cards, even those that are easy to get your hands on and relatively cheap like current Standard sets? That’s going to end up in actual losses not just for WotC (boohoo), but likely for your LGS as alistically, I think proxies are ethically fine when it comes to anything on the reserved list, as a start. Basically any card that is just about impossible to find or wildly expensive if you ever do manage to find it. When it comes to any singles that you could potentially find at an LGS? I’m no longer on board, and you shouldn’t be either. LGS’ have enough problems competing with Wizards and their online discounts, alternatives, incentives, etc. They don’t need to be competing with proxies, you feel the need to hide your use of proxies, you’ve already got your answer as to whether or not you should be using them. I just don’t think you’re gonna like it. “Official” ProxiesTournaments are a whole other bag. Any non-official cards are, I’m sure you guessed, not allowed in competitive play. DCI-sanctioned events will sometimes have judges print proxies if a card is accidentally damaged. Spill some water on the table? Proxy. Cards fall off the table and get squished? Proxy. Got tilted and shuffled your poor cards into a bent mess? Maybe try taking a few deep breaths before you ruin all your other decks. “Accidentally” is also important there. Don’t go splashing water everywhere or throwing your cards around just cause you want a proxy. I’m not sure why you’d ever do that anyway, but I had to say tting Your Hands on ProxiesNow that I’ve gotten all the downers out of the way, let’s get to the fun stuff. How do you make proxies, where can you get them, how to print them, Them YourselfWhirlermaker | Illustration by Victor Adame MinguezThe first and potentially easiest way to get proxies is to make them yourself. There are sites out there that will do the formatting for you. All you need is a printer, paper, ink, and some scissors! If you wanna get fancy there are some other supplies that will make your proxies prettier or nicer to hold, but those are the we get to the sites, the printer is kind of important. Any old printer will get the job done but it might not be what you’re expecting. Some printers are better than others in general, of course, but what’s the best printer for proxies? Inkjet printers are generally hailed as good options. If you want to really step up your game, though, laser color printers will be your best SitesWhen it comes to proxy sites, I actually had some trouble finding a good one. My recommendation is going to go to MTG site is easy to use, intuitive, and they’ve got a bunch of options you can mess with for your proxies. You can print a whole deck at once which is great. They’ve also got an easy dropdown menu where you can choose which version of each card you want to print. And their website is nice to look at, which isn’t super important but it gets a stamp of approval from me you’re looking to make completely custom cards or want to use your own art, there are other Photoshop and PDF TemplatesValki, God of Lies | Illustration by Yongjae ChoiYou could just use Photoshop if you’re already familiar with it. PDF templates give you something to work with, and you can find plenty of them online. They’re not even that difficult to make yourself if you’ve got a bit of there’s Magic Set Editor, which looks pretty cool. You can use it to design your own cards to print or share online. It’s also got a stats window, which will give you some info about the cards you’ve designed like average mana cost, how many rares there are, and more. It lets you export to an HTML file, Apprentice, or CCG Lackey if you wanna play with them online. You can’t export high quality images, so this might not be the best option for you depending on what you want to do with to Buy ProxiesIf you don’t have a printer, don’t want a printer, or just don’t want to print proxies yourself, you can buy them. This is where you might get into some slippery slopes in terms of proxies versus counterfeits and the ethics of the whole thing, but I went over that already so we’ll just move on to some options for could also try your hand at eBay, Etsy, or even Reddit. Plenty of people have the means to print really nice looking and feeling proxies. eBay might get a little weird and counterfeit-y, though, so be careful over there. Etsy is a good spot, but you’ll probably have to provide the seller with the file you want printed. Reddit has some general proxy subs, and there are some for MTG proxies specifically, Mini-ReviewI got some samples from to get a feel for their proxies, so I can actually tell you what I think of their stuff. I will say before I get into the cards that I don’t like their website. It’s not particularly user-friendly and is a bit annoying to navigate. It’s honestly not the worst I’ve ever encountered, so it at least gets points for ’ve got some playsets which is pretty cool and definitely a plus, just wanted to mention that. I ended up getting five cards: Black Lotus (because of course I did), Ensnaring Bridge, Grim Tutor, Mox Jet, and a foil Azusa, Lost but Seeking. They’re pretty obviously not official MTG cards, but in my opinion they actually did it off, the cards came in a hard plastic sleeve to keep them safe from bending during shipping which is great. The package was also lined with bubble wrap, so they ship their cards well. Not exactly the highest bar ever but they passed so it’s worth mentioning. I’m not super impressed with the Azusa foil card, at least in comparison to how shiny actual MTG foils are. But it doesn’t curve and it’s still clearly reflective and has the classic foil sheen over it. I also really like the card stock they use. It doesn’t remotely feel like an official Magic card. It feels much, much better. Very smooth and solid. I’m not worried about these cards getting banged up or bent, and they definitely aren’t going to curl on me. I didn’t notice any printing errors, but the backs of the cards are a bit faded. Then again, they are proxies, and isn’t that what sleeves are for anyway? Overall, I’m really impressed with their cards and I’d even go so far as to say that Wizards should probably look into the same card stock and printing methods that they use. Might improve their quality a to Make Special ProxiesDid anybody here ever watch that show How It’s Made? I used to watch that all the time when I was a kid. Something about watching factory machines do the same thing over and over again and listening to the narrator’s soothing voice was super a result, I’m kind of way too into finding out how various things are made. It might be a bit of an obsession but it’s ilsThere are a few different ways you can make foil proxies at home. The best way is actually using existing foil cards. This guide tells you all you need to know, but I’ll go over a TL;DR version ’re basically going to remove the ink from the card and then glue a transparent sheet onto the now-blank card. It’s pretty easy, and your result is going to look pretty awesome. You will need some patience to get this done, even if it’s relatively you start, make sure you’ve got a foil Magic card, double-sided tape, acetone, spray adhesive, transparent printer sheets, and a soft rag. You’ll obviously also need a color printer, somewhere to work, and a PDF of the card you’ll be kensEldrazi Spawn token | Illustration by Veronique MeignaudThis is arguable the least controversial and ethically-questionable type of proxy. Tokens are a great way to customize your deck and making your own means you can use whatever art you want! This is probably the only thing that would ever get me into proxies or making them myself. I don’t really have a whole lot to say on the topic, so I’ll focus on what I’m interested in when in comes to token Gcardsmith is the most popular site that allows you to make your own MTG cards, and it’s honestly pretty awesome. You can check out what other people have made along with making your own. Pair that with a card editing software for any last-minute tweaks and you’re good to go! Proxy CubeIf you’re into Cube at all, proxies might have come up before. Maybe you want to create a higher-powered cube for you and your friends or just something fun and crazy with custom cards. Everything I’ve already mentioned gives you a base for how to make your own proxies or where to get them, but making a cube means you’re going to need proxies in reddit thread has plenty of helpful options for you on how to make hundreds of proxies easily and for relatively cheap. If you’ve got a printer you could just print out the cards you want on regular paper and then sleeve them with reversed MTG cards. Some proxy printing sites were also offered as an option, or printing PDFs at an office store or the post office. Powering Down ProxiesAngel of Finality | Illustration by Howard LyonWell, that was a lot. But we’re done now, and I’ve only got a few more things to say before we can both move on with our hasn’t said too much on the subject of proxies over the years, but they have said some things. They’ve got a whole post from back in 2016 after some LGS debacle on the subject of proxies and counterfeits. They mostly talk about DCI-sanctioned events, but they also mention counterfeits and playtest cards. Basically, you can’t use proxies/playtest cards at DCI-sanctioned events, Wizards is very against counterfeit cards (surprise surprise), and they don’t care about proxy/playtest cards made for personal definition of proxy/playtest cards is super basic, only including when a card has the info for another card written over it. They specifically mention that playtest/proxy cards don’t have official art, though, which isn’t surprising. Even if they’re not going to go after people for printing MTG cards with official art for personal use, they still have to uphold their legal right to do that. If Wizards went around being honest about the fact that doing it for personal use probably won’t get their attention, they’d lose a lot of legal ground. I’m not surprised by their stance on all of this, and I’m not surprised on their vagueness when it comes to what they actually consider a proxy/playtest card. It’s also probably very intentional that they used the word “playtest” and not “proxy, ” but that’s a whole other conversation. I’m about out of juice for the day, so I’m gonna wrap it up now. What are your thoughts on proxies? Ethical, not ethical, do you care at all? Does the format they’re used in change your stance at all? Let me know in the comments down there, or hop over to our Discord for a longer chat! I should probably plug something else before I go, right? I don’t think I’ve ever mentioned our Facebook page, so here you go. Bet you didn’t even know we had one of those. Well, we do, and there it for your time, and I’m about out of words now. Have a good one! Note: this post contains affiliate links. If you use these links to make a purchase, you’ll help Draftsim continue to provide awesome free articles and apps.
Frequently Asked Questions about mtg proxies canada
Are MTG proxies illegal?
The most important distinction to make here is that proxy cards, no matter how realistic, are not legal in tournament magic. This means that in any official tournament, whether a Mythic Championship or just FNM at you local store, the cards are illegal to play with.Feb 24, 2020
Can you buy MTG proxies?
Where to Buy Proxies. If you don’t have a printer, don’t want a printer, or just don’t want to print proxies yourself, you can buy them.Mar 17, 2021
How do I know if I have a proxy MTG?
Have a look at the printing pattern of the rest of the card as well: the difference is obvious. The third picture show the border of a played proxy. The paper it’s different – when consumed, it looks more frayed.
